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forty six cents holding 28 Oct 2014 15:12 #2551

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So far $ 0.46 is holding...with many if not most funds fiscal year ending in October it will be up mto the conference call to determine the near term path, minding that there are still sabby shares to sell.

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forty six cents holding 28 Oct 2014 17:01 #2552

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***it will be up to the conference call to determine the near term path***
hedge, judging from past calls, one cannot expect straight answers. Soooo much to spin this time around, they should be dressed in top hat and tails, as their biggest tap dance to date is about to commence. How believable will they be? Getting tired of the lies.
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forty six cents holding 28 Oct 2014 18:52 #2553

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Credibility is still non-existent as Marc kept promising to raise capital in a shareholder friendly manner. Obviously he had no choice but it couldn't be much worse. And to think a former CEO who resigned and lead shareholders down this spiral is now getting paid and has potential contingent payments for deals that he COULD NOT close in advance of the dilution rape. That failure to execute has dogged Cytori for years and his apparent failure again lead to the destructive capital raise. He does not deserve penny more, IMHO, and all parties should be ashamed by today's 8-K!
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forty six cents holding 28 Oct 2014 22:33 #2554

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Yeah...I saw the 8k as well.
Such a good market day I just blew it off as absolutely nothing surprises me here :KO: .

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forty six cents holding 30 Oct 2014 15:31 #2570

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Nice volume today to allow Sabby out !

Once they finish priority would be to keep this well above $ 0.577 so they can repeat the process.

Other than short covering the large buyers are still unknown.

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forty six cents holding 31 Oct 2014 06:10 #2571

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Hedge-

I presume you mean Sabby & Co. Its most likely that the others- 26 Mio -6,5 Mio Sabby shares = 19,5 Mio shares with warrants to play with, have exactly the same "financial strategy" as Sabby is most likely to have.

It will be very interesting - after the dust has blown away- to see the new ownership relations.

Also- after this disaster quarter, it will be interesting to listen to the "tone" of the Q3 CC. Still full of confidence CC style or with an realization of the shit that happened and taken responsibility for it.

Time will tell

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forty six cents holding 31 Oct 2014 08:53 #2572

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I read the 13G filing as it being all Sabby.
Speard over 3 Sabby funds and Hal Mintz personally.

Take another look and tell me what you or others think. Maybe I am misreading something but seems rather straight forward..

Agree...I want to see who is buying what they are selling.

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forty six cents holding 31 Oct 2014 09:23 #2573

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Hedge-

I agree that those 13G statements are a pain in the butt, since they are impossible to "read and understand". The gagnon ones from the past were even more difficult and NEVER tied up to reported holdings at Nasdaq.

Anyway- having all the stuff accumulated, cannot be since they would trigger the poison pill I think.

This line from the end of the filing is rather telling:

Sabby Management, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company, indirectly owns 8,399,009 shares of Common Stock because it serves as the investment manager of Sabby Healthcare Volatility Master Fund, Ltd. and Sabby Volatility Warrant Master Fund, Ltd., Cayman Islands companies. Mr. Mintz indirectly owns 8,399,009 shares of Common Stock in his capacity as manager of Sabby Management, LLC.

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Board moderator and Site-owner. I still regret the day I started analysing the prospects of MacroPore (now Cytori) back in 2004- a left-over from the tech-bubble at that time from the century change in my portfolio- and became addicted to Cytori´s fat cell technology. :cry:

forty six cents holding 31 Oct 2014 10:35 #2576

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Admittedly these filings can be a mess and yes I do remember trying to put meaning to the Gagnon filings over the years.

***As calculated in accordance with Rule 13d-3 of the Securities Exchange Act of
1934, as amended, (i) Sabby Healthcare Volatility Master Fund, Ltd. and Sabby
Volatility Master Fund, Ltd. beneficially own 7,193,857 and 6,108,793 shares of
the Issuer's common stock ("Common Stock"), respectively, representing
approximately 8.56% and 7.27% of the Common Stock, respectively, and
(ii) Sabby Management, LLC and Hal Mintz each beneficially own 1,6,108,793
shares of the Common Stock, representing approximately 9.99% of the Common
Stock. Sabby Management, LLC and Hal Mintz do not directly own any shares of
Common Stock, but each indirectly owns 8,399,009 shares of
Common Stock. Sabby Management, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company,
indirectly owns 8,399,009 shares of Common Stock because it serves as the
investment manager of Sabby Healthcare Volatility Master Fund, Ltd. and Sabby
Volatility Warrant Master Fund, Ltd., Cayman Islands companies. Mr. Mintz
indirectly owns 8,399,009 shares of Common Stock in his capacity as
manager of Sabby Management, LLC.***

Its all quite twisted and since none of the percentages make sense as they seem based on approx. 84 million shares outstanding.
I have seen in other companies where it has been questioned if ownership by "related" parties really did violate poison pill provisions.
Since q4 ownership numbers wont be complete til mid Feb. 2015 we will never know exactly what the true figures once were. Thanks for your additional comments.

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